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Skip company fined after motorcycle death

5:26pm Monday 11th August 2008

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By Lois Avery »

WIDOW Nina Denley sobbed in court today as Chippenham company Porter Metals were fined for illegally depositing the skip that lead to her husband's death.

Porter Metal and Skip Hire were found £1165 for delivering the skip to Lodge Road in Pewsham last June, without a licence.

Motorcyclist Carl Denley died at the scene on June 19 after he collided with the skip.

All charges against builder Adrian Carey, who had hired the skip and moved it from its original position, were dropped and he was awarded £75 costs.

Chippenham Magistrates Court heard how a catalogue of administrative errors had lead to the skip company neglecting to make sure the license for the skip was in place before delivering it.

There were no adequate safety cones or lights, and the skip should not have been delivered to Lodge Road as the licence application was listed for nearby Danes Close.

It also emerged that the skip company had faxed through the application on behalf of self employed builder Adrian Carey, to Wiltshire County Council, despite the council sending out letters months before saying they would no longer accept applications via fax.

Company secretary Lisa Walker tried to defend their action by saying they had operated in this way for ten years.

"Unless we hear from the council we go ahead and place it. If they have a problem with where it has been sited they would ring us," she said.

However the license had not been granted by the council, who were still processing the application.

Prosecuting Andy Pritchard said: So you have been depositing skips for all these years on the presumption that they will get permission?

"Even though the council might ring up and say there's a problem you still deliver it.

"Porter skips have been working on the cavalier approach that it won't be a problem."

Defending the skip company Mike Jeary said: "Nobody told the company, oi you're putting skips on the highway without us having the opportunity to see it.

"As far as Mrs Walker is concerned nobody, but nobody told her or the company that they were operating in an illegal way."

Chair of Magistrates David Morrell said: "Firstly this was a tragic tragic accident.

"No one could have predicted that leaving a skip on the road by a curb could have resulted in a fatality.

"We looked carefully at the defence of Porters and there was a lack of communication by the county council and porters.

"Mrs Walker did say that she knew no license had been received. Because she admitted that no license was in place and there were no light for the skip we find Porter Metal guilty."


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Lorenzo, Malmesbury says...
2:00am Tue 12 Aug 08

Such a tiny fine is an absolute insult.

The Maxter, Chippenham says...
3:22pm Wed 13 Aug 08

Unfortunately Lorenzo, the judge can only issue punishment for the chrage presented too him, and in this case it was illegally deposting the skip. At no time is causing death by such an action part of the charge. In any case, as the story states the skip was moved, so therefore the company did not deposit a skip in a place that led to the death. Complex, but still tragic.

ray140, wilts says...
10:47am Thu 14 Aug 08

Such a tragic accident,however had the parked skip been a parked car then the result may have been the same but without a prosicution. So i can only asume the motorcyclist was not looking where he was heading or he could have avoided the skip.
A tragic accident.

DougDoug, Wiltshire says...
5:48pm Thu 14 Aug 08

Please do not make such comments on an situation you do not have a full understanding of. Firstly a parked car is no comparison to a skip, a several ton solid metal object is not comparable to a rubber wheeled, plastic / fine metal frame. Also a parked car is something that any driver is used to seeing and hence reaction time is faster where as a skip is not something that any driver is used to seeing in the road hence why it requires a licence which stipulates required markings, lights and cones to make it clearly visable and higlights the obstruction to the driver. There was no evidence to suggest that the rider was not paying attention.

TC, Chippenham says...
12:11am Sun 17 Aug 08

Was there evidence to suggest he was overtaking at speed on a bend?

TC, Chippenham says...
12:22am Sun 17 Aug 08

Was there evidence to suggest he was overtaking at speed on a bend?

DougDoug, Wiltshire says...
8:50pm Mon 18 Aug 08

You obviously have a problem about this case??? The Coroner's verdict considered all of the evidence and death was recorded as 'misadventure' which suggests there was no sufficient evidence that the rider was driving at speed nor overtaking. I suggest if you have a constructive comments to make that you complete you research fully.

TC, Chippenham says...
12:14am Tue 19 Aug 08

You seem to have all the answers. I was quoting a previous report from June - presumably the very same Coroner's one you refer to.

I was out riding that very morning in Pewsham 10 minutes later, road conditions and visibility were perfect.

This incident should not have happened & the skip placing was clearly poor but it was certainly easily visible from a distance. The verdict seems weak on all grounds.

hlnstcks, Swindon says...
11:01am Tue 19 Aug 08

This is not helping the riders widow....please show some respect..

hlnstcks, Swindon says...
11:27am Tue 19 Aug 08

This is not helping the riders widow....please show some respect..

TC, Chippenham says...
1:04am Fri 22 Aug 08

This isn't the condolences page, this is a comment on our ability to accurately record events by the County's Coroner. Wishy washy verdicts do no-one any favours & people need to take responsibility for their actions and that includes skip companies and councils.

ex employee, wiltshire says...
12:49pm Sun 24 Aug 08

I send my upmost condolances to the widow.
I do think in my view the fine is to low for a life, these people at porters who can afford to buy porshes and aston martins should be able to compensate the poor widow,they always use the same excuse that the skip had bein moved and as a company of so long should of known better of the law what has bein out for a long time on this leaving skips on the road side, and its amazing after all this they have decided to change there polices and upgrade there safty system.
after all the one who is suffering is nina? not porters.

ruby, cheshire says...
6:38pm Tue 2 Sep 08

oh dear TC and ray 140 there is always one, or two isnt there, may i make a suggestion that you show this family some respect for their loss, we all of us have our views and we can all speculate and make assumptions? but the cold hard facts remain, the skip hire company openly admitted in court that they had been breaking the law for 10 years? so let us all be thankfull that there have never been more deaths other than that of carls. you may have been out riding that same morning TC, but you certainly were not riding behind carl?,and neither were you on lodge road, as it had been immediately closed off by the police?also,no one has ever stated conditions were any other than you have said? no one will ever realy know for certain of all the events of that morning,there were no witnesses that actualy saw the impact? and of course he would have been looking where he was going, he wasnt blind? please do not leave negative comments about a wonderful man that you did not know? and yes tc you are correct, this isnt the condolences page,but instead of ammusing yourself, please let carl now rest in peace. i will leave my identity, i am carls mother.

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